these pills are strong, not with MDMA but with something else as once it hits you, you get the feeling of tunnel vision and some visuals go slow motion on you. Music and lights are great, not much talky on these. Come up after ingesting is the usual 30-45mins and peak lasts to about 3hrs. come down was a bit sudden but surprisingly the next day you don't get that feeling of when you have had a dirty pill.
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